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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:13:53 GMT
I don't care how ridiculous you claim it to be - it's a valid theory and insulting it is going to just solidify my stance on it after the several times I have tried to dialogue with you over the past few pages about your play today.
I'm getting flashbacks to the time I was the target of a scum fake guilty because they needed to throw themselves at me for some reason because I was a key piece in solving the game - the motive is a bit different here because it is actually 1 mislim to mylo so there's the motive there.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:14:48 GMT
The push didn't lead to anything - as far as I'm concerned it doesn't mean anything because now that there's a chance to get him here you're getting massive cold feet which is very telling to me.
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 3:19:49 GMT
The panic 1 shot claim feels weird too. Like you're giving yourself reasons to not be nightkilled tonight after auryxx becomes viable? Don't you want to be confirmed if you're 1 shot? And as nate seems to have pointed out in their recent post, I trust they can back up that claim - that you have given yourself softs that you are not cop in the eventuality that nate flips town and you can try to fight off being voted off on the basis you were a town gambiting. Does that make sense? I'm trying to be as open as possible with how this all looks to us on the outside of your thunderdome. mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5059/thread
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:21:50 GMT
That is to say -> I have more reasons to scumread you than I do to scumread nate, AND I have more reasons to townread nate than I do to scumread you.
You can call my play bad all you want, that is how I am viewing the game atp. I do not see a world where Nate is scum at this time.
Here's an exercise you can do to help your case:
Make a case on why your solve is correct by scumcasing each individual(even Nate! I know you did earlier but I want you to also take into account their recent posts) And also towncase everyone outside - or at least enough to where it shows that you are thinking about the game in a genuine light. I'm mainly interested in how you are viewing cows and pretender for those outside your solve.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:22:48 GMT
The panic 1 shot claim feels weird too. Like you're giving yourself reasons to not be nightkilled tonight after auryxx becomes viable? Don't you want to be confirmed if you're 1 shot? And as nate seems to have pointed out in their recent post, I trust they can back up that claim - that you have given yourself softs that you are not cop in the eventuality that nate flips town and you can try to fight off being voted off on the basis you were a town gambiting. Does that make sense? I'm trying to be as open as possible with how this all looks to us on the outside of your thunderdome. mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5059/threadlink is to a page that doesn't have a post from cyclone.. lol
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:23:27 GMT
(links to page 108)
if you can just list the page it will help - because it seems that ISOing and post linking is hella borked on this site lol
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:34:04 GMT
oh nvm it just links to your readslist... I meant backing up that those softs you said indeed exist.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:39:10 GMT
That is to say -> I have more reasons to scumread you than I do to scumread nate, AND I have more reasons to townread nate than I do to scumread you. You can call my play bad all you want, that is how I am viewing the game atp. I do not see a world where Nate is scum at this time. Here's an exercise you can do to help your case: Make a case on why your solve is correct by scumcasing each individual(even Nate! I know you did earlier but I want you to also take into account their recent posts) And also towncase everyone outside - or at least enough to where it shows that you are thinking about the game in a genuine light. I'm mainly interested in how you are viewing cows and pretender for those outside your solve.
just to make sure you see this
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:41:27 GMT
That is to say -> I have more reasons to scumread you than I do to scumread nate, AND I have more reasons to townread nate than I do to scumread you. You can call my play bad all you want, that is how I am viewing the game atp. I do not see a world where Nate is scum at this time. Here's an exercise you can do to help your case: Make a case on why your solve is correct by scumcasing each individual(even Nate! I know you did earlier but I want you to also take into account their recent posts) And also towncase everyone outside - or at least enough to where it shows that you are thinking about the game in a genuine light. I'm mainly interested in how you are viewing cows and pretender for those outside your solve.
just to make sure you see this
no I already presented a case I'm not doing it again just to sway you if you want to scumside that's on you I'm not gonna sit here and make the same case over and over and over again to be ignored You pairing me with Auryxx and calling this a gambit is ridiculous townplay and I'm not entertaining it Blow the game at your own risk
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Post by cowsloveSushirolls on Aug 23, 2021 3:42:15 GMT
can u towncase me and tendy :pleading:
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:45:32 GMT
can u towncase me and tendy :pleading: you think its hockey and hockey scum pret has same solve as me except he ropes in koba who is scumsiding certified POE moment (plus everything mentioned before + overall tone of both of your games are very positive)
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:46:38 GMT
just to make sure you see this
no I already presented a case I'm not doing it again just to sway you if you want to scumside that's on you I'm not gonna sit here and make the same case over and over and over again to be ignored You pairing me with Auryxx and calling this a gambit is ridiculous townplay and I'm not entertaining it Blow the game at your own risk I think its dishonest of you to claim I am ignoring you when I am very clearly trying to dialogue you and push you to create convincing content. "I said so" is not convincing to me when I have counterevidence to your claims. If Nate was just rolling over here - I'd believe you 100% but that is not the universe we are in and we need a bit more from you especially considering some of the weird shit you have said.
Again - I am very stubborn about what it takes to convince me when my mind is set on something, and I have determined that to be what I have suggested - and most *definitely* will never be swayed by insults or discreds. I don't think it is ridiculous to sac yourself the day before mylo.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:51:22 GMT
I do not think it would be a bad scum play to do what I did suggest I believe you to be potentially doing - which is why I brought it up. I am an accomplished scum player and I would considering doing a similar play myself. I have never lost a cc as scum in forum play, even when guiltied. The only reason I'm very much entertaining you being town here is that it is questionable for a scum you to try to pocket me when consensus can easily be convinced that I am scum here.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:54:09 GMT
Again - I am very stubborn about what it takes to convince me when my mind is set on something spoiler
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:56:38 GMT
alright alright I had to that was my last one
But seriously Koba I can't really provide anything that I haven't already said, I have a sided cop check and for you to even think that Auryxx and I can be paired here is absolutely unreal
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 4:04:01 GMT
Nate - what do you think of my theory, as a person within this thunderdome? I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with chainsawing as a term. I looked it up, and basically understand it to be "The person who accuses someone who is accusing another [presumably, their partner]." Are you referring to Cyclone pushing me over Auryxx since I had Auryxx as scum, then? My biased position is probably getting in the way in part, but it seems like a poor option to select for them both. Auryxx already looks atrocious for the Ez MC + day 1. I don't think he really gets enough cred from Cyclone flipping red to be worth it. Furthermore, Cyclone is basically sacking for MYLO. It's a very viable move to minimize info for the last day, but Auryxx isn't really the deepwolf in that world anyway, so I don't think he hard defends Auryxx for that reason. The only advantage to pushing me first in this world is knowing that Auryxx is there and pretty able to openwolf me as well if I am close to dead. I think it fits better the other way around; that Cyclone assumed he was going to just run me over without question, and so he was going to try and deepwolf and possibly even get away with a MC on me. Even if he doesn't, he probably would have far better odds of getting away with it than Auryxx does. If Cyclone gets the MC on me today, the heat ends up being divided between the two of them fairly evenly, alongside 1 who has taken a relatively small amount of the spotlight. The odds that they can turn that into a winning game is much higher. I think the desperation is starting to set in for Cyclone, though. He wasn't ready for my reaction, or the possibility that others might hear me out. He didn't expect me to call out his softs, and he's been trying to cushion my pushback by saying that I wrongly town-read him at first and doubted that it was just a scum hard-claim, rather than ever actually explaining why he did those things. I think this push is predicated on trying to guarantee the free throw since he doesn't think he's going to be able to hit the 3 anymore. Despite claiming to not be concerned with himself or whether Auryxx lives, he immediately takes considerable note of anyone who questions his claim on any grounds. The longer I stay alive, the more likely it is that I can flip this all back on him, and he realizes it. Getting condemned immediately after me would be unfortunate for him. Getting condemned before me would be a tragedy that ends the game for him.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:05:47 GMT
I hard pushed Auryxx all of d1. All of it.
I have now immediately opened d2 with a Cop claim, and a sided on Nate who is paired with Auryxx. If Nate is town, then I am mafia. FYPOV, if Auryxx is mafia, I can still be mafia. So why not just kill Nate today, test my claim, and if its wrong you get two free scum regardless? If you use my route, you get all 3 in rapid succession and take home a nice shiny W. That's the difference. You are very stubborn however and believe that your solve is correct.
It is not. You have not quoted or responded to a single post I've made in full. It's almost as if every point from there you deem null and invalid, which I cannot understand how that would be the case.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:06:52 GMT
Nate trying to paint this like I'm desperate here is ridiculous. I have all 3 of your mafia pinned.
I have pushed Auryxx more than anyone else in this entire game. If there is any objection to that, speak now and provide your case and I will provide mine. Mine is heftier.
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 4:08:01 GMT
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 4:09:24 GMT
oh nvm it just links to your readslist... I meant backing up that those softs you said indeed exist. That wasn't a reads list. Was me doing an unofficial vote count on EoD D1. I had that link from when I was talking with Cape and must have just completely fucked it when searching my ISO. I posted the softs link above.
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Post by cowsloveSushirolls on Aug 23, 2021 4:11:17 GMT
Nate trying to paint this like I'm desperate here is ridiculous. I have all 3 of your mafia pinned. I have pushed Auryxx more than anyone else in this entire game. If there is any objection to that, speak now and provide your case and I will provide mine. Mine is heftier. hockey has, kekw
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:14:24 GMT
Nate trying to paint this like I'm desperate here is ridiculous. I have all 3 of your mafia pinned. I have pushed Auryxx more than anyone else in this entire game. If there is any objection to that, speak now and provide your case and I will provide mine. Mine is heftier. hockey has, kekw cows pls come help me be the voice of reason use your memes for good
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:15:31 GMT
I can say, with 100 percent certainty, confidence, all of the above, that MeteorNate is mafia.
Quote this if you ever think I'm backtracking.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:19:19 GMT
The reason I want Nate killed over Auryxx today is so when I die the game is left in a better place then with vice versa.
That is something I will continue to say over and over again.
If we do not kill Nate today, Koba is going to continue his reluctance against this, and the Hockey read. I am confident he is town and not mafia hard-pairing here.
So, if your name ISNT DkKoba, and you want a future in the game where we end up actually killing mafia, let me know.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:24:15 GMT
Here's my fear I didn't want to say before:
We kill Auryxx. He obviously flips mafia.
Mafia keeps me alive since I don't have any more power.
Koba continues his reluctant strike and mafia ends up powering through him in order to win, all while I'm sitting here with a squeaky clean solve.
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