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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 2:53:20 GMT
Vote: MeteorNate
probably sticking this time. If for some godforsaken reason people don't decide to follow their Cop claim and confirm that I'm town then that is entirely on them.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 2:53:31 GMT
cyclone if you're telling the truth about your claim - you're easily feeding rebuttals to nate then because everything nate replies with has strong logical conviction and complexity.
otherwise like...... yeah.
i'm trying to get you to then next day so we could potentially get more results and force scum to nightkill you if you are real.
part of me thinks you are cop who got inno on the flipped dead but thats just my observation
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Post by hockeyfan on Aug 23, 2021 2:53:32 GMT
Im not mafia, I am town smh
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 2:53:52 GMT
Auryxx is not the vote today. Cyclone is hard claiming one-shot cop which means hes either mafia or hes not right? Hes claiming a sided check on Nate which should confirm his alligment because he has no reason to bus. Earlier I mentioned that {Pretender,Cows,Scotland} contains a mafia I think im willing to take cows out which leaves {Pretender,Scotland} it bothers me that the only person here with any idea of what we should do today is the fucking mafia themselves lmfao or consider the implications of their words in a town!nate world. |
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 2:54:16 GMT
I put in a shit ton of posts and effort into pairings/partnerships that people just entirely ignored and that's mainly why I'm heated.
I just don't understand why people are fine with not letting a cop claim prove themselves as legitimate before they get tossed into the fucking stratosphere.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 2:54:44 GMT
I will be really cross with you if it turns out you did lie about your claim and nate ends up town. There is no shame in realizing your reaction test was a bust and resulted in the conclusion you didn't like.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 2:56:26 GMT
cyclone if you're telling the truth about your claim - you're easily feeding rebuttals to nate then because everything nate replies with has strong logical conviction and complexity. otherwise like...... yeah. i'm trying to get you to then next day so we could potentially get more results and force scum to nightkill you if you are real. part of me thinks you are cop who got inno on the flipped dead but thats just my observation YOU BELIEVE THE BS THAT HE IS SPEWING?!?!?! XrMald mode is in full force. It's like you completely ignored everything that I said. If Pretender wants to vote you over Hockey now I don't really care anymore because you might as well be 4th mafia for townreading both Nate/Hockey here. I think I have done every single thing that is humanly possible this game to give town the best shot at winning and you are still letting it pass you by here. If that happens, then I'll be ready in post-game for the therapy money you owe me. |
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 2:57:16 GMT
you have to understand that from our POV - you are not confirmed and neither is nate.
even from a town!nate pov, he can know you are lying and still find a townread on you.
you're flushing towncred down the drain by aggressively insulting people who won't just blindly sheep you.
you claimed your red *before* nate even spoke which like set off red flags for me early on but I believed you at the time but as soon as nate started posting the doubt came back and I'm likley not going to sheep you on nate until nightplay confirms that.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 2:57:27 GMT
I will be really cross with you if it turns out you did lie about your claim and nate ends up town. There is no shame in realizing your reaction test was a bust and resulted in the conclusion you didn't like. Then vote Nate today and find out. When he flips mafia, you can start marking Hockey as scum even sooner because they are directly paired. You have Auryxx as scum and somehow don't even loop the other 2 in, but if Nate dies, and is scum, does that not make the rest of the team apparent, while also showing that I am the real cop? |
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 2:57:53 GMT
you think auryxx is scum.
we are all right in voting auryxx first.
can you explain why voting out auryxx is disagreeable to you?
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 2:59:27 GMT
you have to understand that from our POV - you are not confirmed and neither is nate. even from a town!nate pov, he can know you are lying and still find a townread on you. you're flushing towncred down the drain by aggressively insulting people who won't just blindly sheep you. you claimed your red *before* nate even spoke which like set off red flags for me early on but I believed you at the time but as soon as nate started posting the doubt came back and I'm likley not going to sheep you on nate until nightplay confirms that. A) Not insulting, I just dislike people hyping themselves up midgame in general with their past play. B) I am being aggressive because news flash that's what town with info does when they have a game solve C) Nate is the best mechanical, logical, tonal, spiritual or whatever the fuck else vote today. I have explained why. Please go back and give my posts another read + the fact that he just straight up lied about pegging my claim as scum. |
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:00:21 GMT
I feel like you care more about the result of nate dying rather than helping people solve the game from their own POV which is a selfish mindset and can even come from a scum trying to force through a gambit to put the game in mylo.
the desperation is again, WAY too high for someone who got SvS wagons here from what they claim to believe. you are starting to show a lot of contradictory words to actions.
like I keep telling you - slow down. Take a deep breathe. Realize not everyone has the same info that you have if you are telling the truth. Realize that if you are lying that other people may have come to a conclusion that may be correct.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:01:17 GMT
you think auryxx is scum. we are all right in voting auryxx first. can you explain why voting out auryxx is disagreeable to you? I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about the state I'm going to be leaving the game in. If I live now, and Nate doesn't die, you are still a skeptic and I'm sitting here with the 1-Shot Cop Claim for nothing because now mafia doesn't even have to kill me, or RB me. I can't access any extra info now. I outed that for the sole purpose of killing Nate and it is STILL not happening. I need to leave the game after today in a state that no matter what town cannot find a way to lose this game. I cannot control the game from the afterlife and there will always be skepticism in the air so I am doing everything in my power to leave it in the best possible scenario that I can. |
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 3:02:36 GMT
Are you seriously going to make me go back and quote where you called me VT baiting because you made a long post with like 7 quotes and didn't express that until after I claimed 1-shot so unless you are going to make the claim that "oh i just didn't say anything because I kept it to myself  )))" then maybe people will see how fake that is This post makes it incredibly clear that I've established you as fake. mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5774/threadNote how both of those 2 worlds involve me assuming your claim is a hard claim. One very clearly calls you scum. I made a very large post as to times you were softing as though you wanted to retract, and those now serve as wonderful notes against you since, now that you've hard-claimed, you had no reason to sit on the fence and act as though you're uncertain about what alignment I am after claiming. Even in making the aforementioned post I noted that the large number of times you crumbed not being cop was cause for concern that I think backed me if you didn't retract. Although I did not use the magic words of "Cyclone is mafia," I made it fairly apparent where my position was before your new claim that you were 1-Shot. Why you think that you claiming 1-Shot would shift my read on you is beyond me. I'd determined that was your angle already, and was just leaving you a trail to make you say it explicitly. |
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:03:15 GMT
Like if you have a game solve why are you so pressed that Auryxx is being voted?
the issue is:
This makes sense in a scum!you world who is chainsawing Auryxx and knowing they will be likely confscum the next day as distancing. Which is where my primary concern comes from you being so aggressively shady about the auryxx wagon. I find this to be a legitimate concern that is a logical conclusion based on your behavior - so i'm not interested in you insulting me over it. I'm extending a really large olive branch to you here and I want you to take it and come clean, or at least have some explaination that is consistent with your expressed worldview.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:03:17 GMT
I feel like you care more about the result of nate dying rather than helping people solve the game from their own POV which is a selfish mindset and can even come from a scum trying to force through a gambit to put the game in mylo. the desperation is again, WAY too high for someone who got SvS wagons here from what they claim to believe. you are starting to show a lot of contradictory words to actions. like I keep telling you - slow down. Take a deep breathe. Realize not everyone has the same info that you have if you are telling the truth. Realize that if you are lying that other people may have come to a conclusion that may be correct. Drop the passive aggressive nonsense Koba and cut to the goddamn chase. I know you are town. I care about the result ONLY FOR YOUR FLIPS. Pretender's solve is SIGNIFICANTLY easier if Nate dies first, because he has him pegged as mafia either way, and I can't be paired with him especially after outing the 1-Shot mechanic. You know that I can't be paired with Nate or Auryxx. You know I believe both of them are hard scum. You townread Nate. I know Nate is mafia. When Nate flips red, it helps you change your read on Hockey since you also townread him. Koba, you misunderstand. The only reason I want Nate dead is so you will see a clearer path to the finish after I die. |
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:04:41 GMT
Are you seriously going to make me go back and quote where you called me VT baiting because you made a long post with like 7 quotes and didn't express that until after I claimed 1-shot so unless you are going to make the claim that "oh i just didn't say anything because I kept it to myself )))" then maybe people will see how fake that is This post makes it incredibly clear that I've established you as fake. mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5774/threadNote how both of those 2 worlds involve me assuming your claim is a hard claim. One very clearly calls you scum. I made a very large post as to times you were softing as though you wanted to retract, and those now serve as wonderful notes against you since, now that you've hard-claimed, you had no reason to sit on the fence and act as though you're uncertain about what alignment I am after claiming. Even in making the aforementioned post I noted that the large number of times you crumbed not being cop was cause for concern that I think backed me if you didn't retract. Although I did not use the magic words of "Cyclone is mafia," I made it fairly apparent where my position was before your new claim that you were 1-Shot. Why you think that you claiming 1-Shot would shift my read on you is beyond me. I'd determined that was your angle already, and was just leaving you a trail to make you say it explicitly. homie ur possibility was that we are in a 4 mafia world which literally doesn't exist lmao |
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:06:23 GMT
The panic 1 shot claim feels weird too. Like you're giving yourself reasons to not be nightkilled tonight after auryxx becomes viable? Don't you want to be confirmed if you're 1 shot?
And as nate seems to have pointed out in their recent post, I trust they can back up that claim - that you have given yourself softs that you are not cop in the eventuality that nate flips town and you can try to fight off being voted off on the basis you were a town gambiting.
Does that make sense? I'm trying to be as open as possible with how this all looks to us on the outside of your thunderdome.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:07:46 GMT
I think I am confident in saying there is 0 chance of me voting out Nate or Cyclone this day phase. There are too many unresolved issues with the claim and cyclone is not making me feel any better about them. Its gotten to the point where I'm leaning more towards it being a scum gambit than not.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:08:31 GMT
Nate - what do you think of my theory, as a person within this thunderdome?
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:09:20 GMT
Koba, I already presented a reason to believe me outside of the 1-Shot claim.
I claimed 1-Shot to show that the reason I claimed full prior was to either die or get hooked when I can't do anything, both of which are fine considering I have no extra info.
If you don't want to vote Nate it's your loss. I'm done trying to get you to see what's going on here. You can read my posts, you don't have to, I don't care anymore. I'm going to talk to people who are openly realizing the game in front of them and where the partnerships lie.
Scumread in pairs. That's the way everyone should play mafia, but people don't. This is how you end up with deepwolfs. This is how this shit happens.
Cape/Cyclone are paired. You scumread Cape too Koba? Nate says we are both clear scum. I have no incentive to fake as cop today, as I did not receive a single scumread on d1.
I am giving you the solve of Nate -> Auryxx -> Hockey. Take it, don't, it's not in my hands anymore. Everything I say now is recycled. It's on you to go back and read what I said to give you the clear outlook on this game.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:09:59 GMT
I think I am confident in saying there is 0 chance of me voting out Nate or Cyclone this day phase. There are too many unresolved issues with the claim and cyclone is not making me feel any better about them. Its gotten to the point where I'm leaning more towards it being a scum gambit than not. Hysteria. Lunacy. Insanity. |
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:10:39 GMT
Get a load of this guy who thinks I'm paired with Auryxx
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 3:10:53 GMT
I'd like you to clearly explain why Auryxx shouldn't go first today. My concern about you being scum trying to distance play against him is a valid concern to me.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 3:13:39 GMT
I hard pushed Auryxx d1. The entire d1. Explain to me how you can pair us. Explain Koba, explain how that is w/w behavior.
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)))" then maybe people will see how fake that is