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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:24:37 GMT
In unrelated news, I am townlocking Cape
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:26:56 GMT
YOU TOWNLOCK CAPE BUT TOWNREAD NATE WHO SCUMREADS CAPE WHEN ME/CAPE ARE HARD ALIGNED
HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:28:07 GMT
Hold on this is a very very good breakthrough Koba you are right there you are so close to discovering the truth my brother look at interactions + bias I'll grab some quotes
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 4:28:42 GMT
The reason I want Nate killed over Auryxx today is so when I die the game is left in a better place then with vice versa. That is something I will continue to say over and over again. If we do not kill Nate today, Koba is going to continue his reluctance against this, and the Hockey read. I am confident he is town and not mafia hard-pairing here. So, if your name ISNT DkKoba, and you want a future in the game where we end up actually killing mafia, let me know. In the world where I get voted today and flip red, you die immediately (or at least are much more likely to die). In the world where Auryxx dies and flips red, you stay alive because your claim is neither damned nor vetted by Auryxx's. How is "the game left in a better place" by voting me today? You're far more likely to die in your claimed world by pushing me. Your desperation absolutely is growing here. Your true fear is that I may flip this on you, not that town may somehow be led astray after you go.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:30:06 GMT
I'm most concerned about sorting between Pretender/Cows/Doijima for last scum rather than this 50/50.
solving the 50/50 however gives me a better chance of the former.
But Auryxx is always scum - and if he somehow isn't that breaks open the game a bit more in a different direction and that is important.
In all worlds we should lim Auryxx here.
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Post by meteornate on Aug 23, 2021 4:32:00 GMT
Here's my fear I didn't want to say before: We kill Auryxx. He obviously flips mafia. Mafia keeps me alive since I don't have any more power. Koba continues his reluctant strike and mafia ends up powering through him in order to win, all while I'm sitting here with a squeaky clean solve. u rn:
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Post by hockeyfan on Aug 23, 2021 4:33:07 GMT
I dont see why we lim Auryxx
when theres always a mafia between Cyclone/Nate. Like I agree the list you prestended holds last scum with the exception of cows -> scotland but
there is always a MAFIA between Nate/Cyclone
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:34:25 GMT
I dont see why we lim Auryxx when theres always a mafia between Cyclone/Nate. Like I agree the list you prestended holds last scum with the exception of cows -> scotland but there is always a MAFIA between Nate/Cyclone Do you see a world where Auryxx is town within the 50/50? Or even if it is TvT?
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:36:28 GMT
I think the extra nightkill before we resolve the 50/50 will be very informative of scum's intentions FWIW.
There's a high chance we see xCyclone die in the universe where Nate is indeed scum so there is no risk there fypov cyclone. Like if I'm scum I don't buy for a minute that you are just 1 shot and just take the shot.
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Post by hockeyfan on Aug 23, 2021 4:36:57 GMT
The thing is, why would BOTH of them be town? One of them is hard claiming cop with a hard guilty on someone else. As for Auryxx's alligment, Idk what it is, probs scum leaning, but frankly I do not care since there is a mafia between Nate/Cyclone
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:37:12 GMT
FWIW - if there is indeed scum between you 2 - the scum is playing a very good game so props to that.
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:42:49 GMT
The thing is, why would BOTH of them be town? One of them is hard claiming cop with a hard guilty on someone else. As for Auryxx's alligment, Idk what it is, probs scum leaning, but frankly I do not care since there is a mafia between Nate/Cyclone
and the subsequent play. (except I think I pulled it off a little more convincingly there than the cop claim here )
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:43:06 GMT
FWIW - if there is indeed scum between you 2 - the scum is playing a very good game so props to that. Bro. You gotta be kidding me. Prime. Meme. Material.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:43:45 GMT
Koba I don't know how you expect me not to clown you when you are scumsiding and haven't stopped talking about how great you are in other games my g
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 4:50:05 GMT
whats up gamers
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Post by cowsloveSushirolls on Aug 23, 2021 4:52:57 GMT
time time is up pew pew pew
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:53:46 GMT
Koba I don't know how you expect me not to clown you when you are scumsiding and haven't stopped talking about how great you are in other games my g I'm using a *big mistake* I made in another game to draw from to analyze this game. Not a good play in another game - I just learn from experience and help create a good play in this current game.
Sorry I can't play 1 dimensional. I like to game solve in a very holistic manner that strikes down *all* possibilities and makes an environment where even the deepest wolf cannot escape.
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 4:53:56 GMT
I did some thinking and I think what we're witnessing here is called a 'Compensation Play' in it's natural habitat
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 4:55:17 GMT
The Compensation Play lives under the premise that no matter how bad a current play is, it couldn't be worse than a previous play which leads to bad/risky decisions being made
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 4:56:32 GMT
I /know/ Cyclones fake but I think he might just be Town fakeclaiming and we're going to both get killed here
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:56:39 GMT
I did some thinking and I think what we're witnessing here is called a 'Compensation Play' in it's natural habitat Alright Auryxx I was gonna ignore you but I'm curious what does this mean exactly Koba the issue with your solve, quite bluntly, is that you townread two mafia through the act of pairing me with Auryxx, which is just never possible here. I am providing you with a free sided check in Nate. I'm sure Auryxx would just love to vote Nate since it's the only possible chance he has of staying alive, isn't that right Auryxx? Friendly reminder that the mafia team is still Auryxx/Nate/Hockey!
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 4:57:02 GMT
The Compensation Play lives under the premise that no matter how bad a current play is, it couldn't be worse than a previous play which leads to bad/risky decisions being made ok scum
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Post by cowsloveSushirolls on Aug 23, 2021 4:57:36 GMT
I /know/ Cyclones fake but I think he might just be Town fakeclaiming and we're going to both get killed here alright scumteam so basically what we gotta do is HARDPAIR with cyclone and make sure they never get nightkilled now that they are basically useless as a one shot cop
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 4:58:01 GMT
I haven't been hammered (Am I even close?) which means this is 10:3 and although we don't instantly lose off this play, it's going to become much harder to win
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 4:58:25 GMT
I /know/ Cyclones fake but I think he might just be Town fakeclaiming and we're going to both get killed here All of mafia + Koba assumes I'm fake. I am giving you the third PR of the game. Everyone has Auryxx marked as mafia. Auryxx will still likely to refuse Nate here. Koba, I am genuinely confused as to how you do not see the obvious here. Like no shade intended- the fact that you think mafia is playing well when this is some incredibly sloppy scumplay, especially with their EOD1, confounds me.
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