Mini Normal Game 1 (Mafia.gg) - Waterfalls!

cyclone the way you talk makes me feel ur guilty is fake

i know
both worlds include two investigatives
why is one significantly more plausible than the other?

Cyclone's guilty is obviously fake but he's probably going to ride it all the way to the grave because he's mad about D1 (and the one with the massive ego, who is being rude, is in fact, you, Cyclone!)

miller claim, and cyclone is town? :^)

I think there's a very real world where he's VT and pulling this all out of his ass.

This quote in particular incredibly suggests that he has no idea what alignment I am:

mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5688/thread

Why blame me for actions I did or did not take if I'm scum? This quote screams "I'm VT, I'm angry at you, and if you flip blue I'm still going to say it's your fault that I faked cop with you red."

I'm now going to ignore Nate and I'm asking others to do the same. That's the last time I'm wasting a comment on someone who I know for a fact is mafia.

Cape/Dojima/Koba/Cows/Scot have all spewed town enough to where this game should be relatively easy from this point on.

Koba thinks that Hockey is town and that its just Pret and someone else that I'm not aware of, and Pret thinks it has to be Hockey vs Koba.

In that case, why is Koba not pushing Hockey? He's not even making a move to what you are saying is the only other possible route for him. That just doesn't make any sense for him to be scum.

He's playing a solo game, he is not paired with anyone else IN this game, and he is not mafia.

I’ve read this game like a book and there is only 2 scenarios. Auryxx’s alignment is pivotal to know which one we are living.

Okay, this is actually a good post that I like.

The one thing is that Koba just isn't mafia here.

Also, for the record, even Nate thinks I'm town. He's saying that I'm BSing as VT and I have a red check on him so A) why fake claim when I'm highly townread and B) why wouldn't Nate immediately just call me fake

Auryxx is claiming to be RB'ed and I'm giving you a free red

If it helps ease your mind that much I don't really mind the order we hit those 2. Both are outed. FYPOV Hockey should be outed as the third but for some reason you have it marked as Koba when I still haven't seen a scumcase on him (if i missed it link me it thanks)

But you need to read my posts on pairings between Hockey and Nate/Auryxx and the EOD shenanigans.

I'm pretty sure this post is coming from a place of town and I'm liking Pretender's tone the more time goes on.

I'm just gonna lock in Auryxx/Nate/Hockey a second time and hope that something clicks within people.

Question- Why is Nate mega scum to you if Auryxx isn't also outed? What are you seeing that individually makes him scummy, and not paired for the reasons I provided?

As for the third mafia if Cyclone is just a clown (even if there is a world where this is just a hard scum claim, the odds that Cape is just sheeping his partner is a lot lower):

The_Pretender:


mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5093/thread  This scumcase on DK is essentially trying to yoink the read that DK is pocketing Moldy because DK townreads Moldy, and that's all. Also reads w/o evidence is an extremely weak case since they typically either explain at a later stage (or you could just.... ask.)

mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/4981/thread When addressing Moldy, refused to point to specific things/encourage discussion with them, and instead just put blame on Moldy for not doing all the work to address it. Only when I specifically reached out to Moldy did he do the same: mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/4990/thread.

They essentially slid through day 1 (at least for me) b/c I assumed their reads were very much the same as mine wrt Moldy. However, their read is super different from mine, and they never actually pointed out the reads they have DK or Hockey at the time and how it relates to Moldy.

mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5239/thread Spamming this pasta is just open-wolfing/mocking town for not being able to do anything since people weren't here to vote. Hockey/Pretender both fit the bill here.


mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums.net/post/5334/thread "Happy to see that my dkkoba vote stayed after all that." is particularly amusing as it suggests that we're somehow incapable of seeing that they did vote Ez/to absolve themselves of responsibility from the vote.

I thought I remembered reading a second quote from them specifically absolving themselves of responsibility for Ez's death but I can't find it now so maybe I'm crazy.

Reading later quotes and seeing he's following Cyclone pretty hard makes me disappointed I didn't mention this one first since it's going to be declared as OMGUS now.

There's greater scum equity here in a world with Cyclone scum imo since they flipped their read on me pretty much solely because Cyclone put down a fake cop claim. They had me/Cyclone both as town before it and are now suggesting that I'm lockscum, so they're using the Cop claim as the sole basis to be able to reposition themselves. If they know Cyclone's claim is fake, they'd be stuck falling into the abyss if Cyclone retracts right after they start dismissing me as scum. There are still worlds where he is sheeping Cyclone to avoid the appearance of TMI, but I think he's generally more likely to be hesitant if he knows the Cop claim could fall away at any second.

I can see you pairing me with Koba, but I don't know how you can plausibly just pair me with Nate here. I'm ccing Auryxx and it's a sided check on my own partner. That would mean that I'm preparing to die, which clearly that isn't the way I've approached the day. It is the only other possible outcome, but what do you think is more likely?

Scum Auryxx panic claims PR, and then gets a ML while preventing shade from falling on Nate/Hockey, Nate pillowpushes Hockey but fails and ends up voting one of his "never vote today" pool, partnering himself with Hockey in the process
In this world, we know Nate is mafia since I have a red on him. This effectively shows that Auryxx/Hockey are both mafia.

Town Auryxx claims Neap, votes out an obvitown, then gets CCed by me while I have a red check on my own partner.
In this world, if Nate dies first, all that happens is Auryxx gets voted the next day and I likely get thrown out regardless of the red on Nate.
I have zero incentive to fake claim considering that I have not been scumread to this point in the game and have a good amount of credibility.

I am obviously biased, but I still feel like the choice here is INCREDIBLY obvious. I have Nate sided, and Auryxx is obviously fake. It's that simple. Hockey being the third is my own thoughts but me being blue confirms two free mafia, while if I'm mafia I'm getting me + Nate killed for the price of one Neap cop. That just doesn't seem worth it in the slightest.