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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 15:53:04 GMT
No actually, we came to an agreement to vote Koba today
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 15:53:17 GMT
It was unanimous
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Post by The_Pretender on Aug 23, 2021 16:05:14 GMT
No actually, we came to an agreement to vote Koba today Gasp! Bussing!Auryxx?
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 16:44:00 GMT
U love to see the lolcat
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 16:44:50 GMT
pretender, if you still think im scum after the reality of the d1 flips and the way i pushed the gamestate around them, you tripping.
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Post by hockeyfan on Aug 23, 2021 16:48:00 GMT
auryxx, what are your thoughts on Cyclones cop clain. Do you think Cyclone/Nate are opposite alligments here?
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Post by cape90 on Aug 23, 2021 17:01:30 GMT
btw Cyclone and Nate HAVE to be opposite alignments
Cyclone retracted cop only to claim 1-shot cop.
If Cyclone was claiming as villager, then Cyclone would want to be roleblock bait and stick to his regular cop claim.
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Post by hockeyfan on Aug 23, 2021 17:03:13 GMT
btw Cyclone and Nate HAVE to be opposite alignments Cyclone retracted cop only to claim 1-shot cop. If Cyclone was claiming as villager, then Cyclone would want to be roleblock bait and stick to his regular cop claim. This is what ive been saying for a while smh
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Post by cowsloveSushirolls on Aug 23, 2021 17:27:27 GMT
good morning
since dojima replaced out i'm going to attempt to make a flowchart with all of the information from today so that the replacement doesn't have to sift through 148 pages
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Post by cape90 on Aug 23, 2021 17:28:57 GMT
btw Cyclone and Nate HAVE to be opposite alignments Cyclone retracted cop only to claim 1-shot cop. If Cyclone was claiming as villager, then Cyclone would want to be roleblock bait and stick to his regular cop claim. This is what ive been saying for a while smh well i skimmed through a lot of posts since I was not here for like... a good long while but yeah. Gonna save energy tbh on this game
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Post by cape90 on Aug 23, 2021 17:29:26 GMT
No actually, we came to an agreement to vote Koba today lol what
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Post by dkkoba on Aug 23, 2021 17:46:55 GMT
No actually, we came to an agreement to vote Koba today lol what They're lolcatting
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Post by auryxx on Aug 23, 2021 17:46:55 GMT
auryxx, what are your thoughts on Cyclones cop clain. Do you think Cyclone/Nate are opposite alligments here? I /know/ it's fake but there's a possibility that Cyclone is just dumb town
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Post by hockeyfan on Aug 23, 2021 17:50:55 GMT
Fake because of your claim yea? What alligment do you think Nate is here
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Post by cowsloveSushirolls on Aug 23, 2021 17:53:12 GMT
meow purrrrrrrrrrrrr mrowr mew nyan~
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:04:46 GMT
Hey guys, just checking up while im waiting for an assignment to open in one of my classes. Auryxx is still the today vote right? no its nate
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:05:36 GMT
btw Cyclone and Nate HAVE to be opposite alignments Cyclone retracted cop only to claim 1-shot cop. If Cyclone was claiming as villager, then Cyclone would want to be roleblock bait and stick to his regular cop claim. oh ya don't say cape
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:11:42 GMT
this is some of the worst scum theatre i've ever seen hockey just give it a rest man
koba's whole thing yesterday just makes him even more towny unfortunately
pretender is still towny as fuck
I can't actually think of anyone worth voting over hockey, auryxx, and nate and I hope other people see that too
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:20:40 GMT
The good news is, thanks to Koba, he's scumread me so much and aligned very hard with mafia so I think mafia's only route now is to keep me alive, especially if Nate doesn't die today.
If Nate does die today, things get a lot simpler because I die in the night and then Auryxx dies tomorrow.
However if we go the other way around and let mafia choose a kill it's likely they kill in {Pretender/cows} considering that Nate is hardpushing Cape and can't really kill him at this point in time either
I'm asking to kill Nate here as it makes endgame incredibly easy as the partner interactions with Hockey oust him as well, and Auryxx has been outed mafia
Today's vote should always test my claim, because if you think Auryxx is mafia it's already likely I'm directly paired against him to begin with {from everyone else's POV}
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:24:58 GMT
I think I've been approaching this from the wrong angle.
The aggression strategy clearly doesn't work outside of text chat mafia, but it was the best way I could go about forcing a read and attempting to get it pushed through.
Nate should die today for mechanical reasons and for end game reasons. Yesterday with Koba's interactions give scum a little bit more room to play with here, which is bad.
We need to launch Nate as soon as possible.
Auryxx is consensus mafia. We lose a random town in the night, probably one of Pretender/Cows, and then afterwards things get even trickier.
It is Day 2. Regardless of whether or not you believe my claim, testing it is the best possible outcome here. This is the course we need to take.
If you launch Nate today, town will win this game with ease. If we show hesitance and kill Auryxx instead, then things are going to get a lot more wishy washy in the upcoming days, and the once clear solve presented is going to be harder to find for all other parties involved.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:32:47 GMT
If we launch Nate today, and Nate is town, you have two free mafia. Auryxx/Cyclone.
Auryxx/Cyclone? Scum pair? Yeah. It doesn't make sense because it doesn't exist.
If we launch Nate today, and Nate is mafia, you still have Auryxx as outed scum.
I likely die, Auryxx gets voted, Cape probably dies for being town leader and it's on the rest to find the third.
The difference between launching Nate/Auryxx is that by launching Auryxx we get no extra info and we are losing a town member.
I believe Koba is town, and with his recent pushbacks, mafia now does not have to kill me.
We have to kill Nate today, more than ever. It gives more info. Auryxx is already decided upon to be mafia. I agree. He is definitely scum.
For the better of the people without extra info, the VTs in this game, it is best that we go a route that gives everyone extra info.
Nate flips red -> Cyclone dies -> Auryxx flips red -> ?? dies -> final scumhunt
Auryxx flips red -> {cows,pretender} dies -> and then a massive struggle the next day to get this vote across.
The other world, which doesn't exist but could from y'alls pov, is this.
Nate flips blue -> Cyclone flips Red -> Auryxx flips red.
Voting out someone who is confirmed to be mafia at this point is exactly what scum wants us to do. The more town alive grabbing extra information, the better.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:36:23 GMT
The odds of MLing Nate FMPOV are 0 percent.
The odds of MLing Nate FYPOV are likely less than 50 percent, but still an option.
The odds of MLing Auryxx FMPOV and FYPOV are 0 percent.
By voting Nate today, when he flips red, town is presented a massive window of information that immediately becomes accessible. One more town dead tonight to resolve the 50/50 between me and Nate is the problem. Koba is already siding with Nate in this world, and it gives more time for Hockey to distance which he is doing now.
I still believe the third mafia is HOCKEYFAN123, and the faster we vote Nate the less chance he gets to distance himself and the quicker you can find third mafia in all worlds.
I only have a couple of potential partners, do I not? Especially if Cape is townlocked by a couple of people, even FYPOV if Nate is blue, then I am red and my partners should be polarizingly clear.
I don't like playing mechanical games, but the pairings don't lie, and the mechanics don't lie. Its that simple.
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Post by The_Pretender on Aug 23, 2021 19:38:33 GMT
If we launch Nate today, and Nate is town, you have two free mafia. Auryxx/Cyclone. Auryxx/Cyclone? Scum pair? Yeah. It doesn't make sense because it doesn't exist. If we launch Nate today, and Nate is mafia, you still have Auryxx as outed scum. I likely die, Auryxx gets voted, Cape probably dies for being town leader and it's on the rest to find the third. The difference between launching Nate/Auryxx is that by launching Auryxx we get no extra info and we are losing a town member. I believe Koba is town, and with his recent pushbacks, mafia now does not have to kill me. We have to kill Nate today, more than ever. It gives more info. Auryxx is already decided upon to be mafia. I agree. He is definitely scum. For the better of the people without extra info, the VTs in this game, it is best that we go a route that gives everyone extra info. Nate flips red -> Cyclone dies -> Auryxx flips red -> ?? dies -> final scumhunt Auryxx flips red -> {cows,pretender} dies -> and then a massive struggle the next day to get this vote across. The other world, which doesn't exist but could from y'alls pov, is this. Nate flips blue -> Cyclone flips Red -> Auryxx flips red. Voting out someone who is confirmed to be mafia at this point is exactly what scum wants us to do. The more town alive grabbing extra information, the better. If auryxx flips red, cyc is confirmed cop, cyc will die at night, and we vote nate next, then the vote is koba or hockey If auryxx flips blue, cyc is confirmed maf, we vote cyc, then nate, then koba. Not that hard to understand. Nate doesnt flip blue in any world, they are mafia by themselves at this point.
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Post by xCyclone on Aug 23, 2021 19:38:33 GMT
I'm aware this is like 5 posts in a row now but:
I kind of let my emotion get to me last night. I still think Koba is clear town, arguably even clearer now, but he's just wrong. That's where I stand on that.
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Post by The_Pretender on Aug 23, 2021 19:40:42 GMT
I forgot to mention that in the world that auryxx flips blue, either cows or cape dies cus maf cant kill me that will out them more than they already are.
TO CLARIFY I STILL THINK AURYXX IS MAFIA, BUT THERE IS ONLY 2 POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FROM THIS POINT FORWARD
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