Now for part 2: Based on ISO (These will still have my quotes from anything that stood out when I was reading 1-20, but there will probably be less from that)
Auryxx
Start of game, seemed compelled to post -1
No one contests the pg 2 townread, instead hesitantly agreeing with it +3
Disagree; scum are more willing to make bold takes early on because they're more enabled to make bold calls, and are more concerned with being correct. I think the tendency to think this way may be influenced by Moldy's TR being you. +0
Probably the right call +4
[redacted]Site problems/Deleted ISO-- Frankly I trust in people to be decent human beings who don't intentionally use IRL or OOG issues as an excuse to dodge playing the game. People sometimes play them up to minimize effort, but I don't think they would lie outright, b/c it just makes them unenjoyable to play with. I'm surprised to see this getting pushed as a legitimate avenue.
Their push back onto Hockey (I think relating to a convo with Ez) doesn't make much sense. I actually agree with both of his main points. Hockey shading him early is off-putting (although imo negligible), and, more importantly,
Hockey's read on him is basically gibberish. With that said,
why wait until
for these comments to actually be a primary push?
Then
why not push it
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CycloneBeing abrasive is Cyclone-indicative, but not alignment-indicative.
My meta understanding of Cyclone is that he's more likely to act as though "It's all so obvious!" when he's scum (he does mention this as town, as well, but he stops here as mafia). Scum!Cyclone is more likely to say "town sucks, hmu when u wanna win" and just leave it at that.
Pre-emptive defense, which is concerning
I think Town!Cyclone differentiates itself from Scum!Cyclone in that his standoffishness also takes the form of saying "This is happening, so deal with it" rather than just the air of superiority.
I don't think the above one necessarily town-leans as much because it was based on a push on him.
(Asked from DK to Moldy about Cyclone)
True! Unfortunately, the question isn't whether it's friendly, it's whether it's AI. And, unfortunately, in this case, it is not.
(Probably wise to come back to meta in at least this avenue)
This argument has gone so deep and I don't actually see the original points beyond why you pushed him to replace the ISO and that he is emotionally-charged. (I think he has addressed the latter, stating he was less invested, and the prior is obv irrel.)
Am I missing something here, because I think it's gone deep enough down the "You aren't responding to me!" vs "Your push sucks!" argument that you're talking past each other.
Cows
Page 3 reads list is pretty reasonable +3
Makes me have to search for where Auryxx called the dk thing a meta read myself
-1
Hockey provides a case on pg 5. I see how Hockey is coming to his interpretations. Cows is using so many negatives in weird places that I cannot tell what he was trying to say at the time. e.g. "i don't think hockey not understanding jokes is just a part of him (implying AI), so it's not alignment indicative"
Disagree; Day 1 is the day to take notes. We don't know who will make it to day 2, nor what things may mean in the future. -1
Also brings up Doj's bv claim but not Scotland's (pg. 11) (Calls Doj's bv claim coached but ignores Scotland's)
I've found myself not liking/agreeing with most of what Cows has said, alongside a large amount of fluff + lack of direction leading me to generally dislike him. However, I did find the one line agreeable with regard to Scotland as I sent a few posts above.
HockeyFan
Moldy wants [wanted?] him to die today. (Avoids confronting him, then pings him for being non-confrontational.) +6
I rolled my eyes at the concept of him calling Cape90 voting my afk predecessor's slot being good. Afks aren't reading posts, voting them won't make them start reading it. -1
Calls out doj's bv claim as real but no comment on Scotland's at the time (In response to Cow's comment)Reaction test to nowhere (pg 12-13) -3
Agree w/ Cyclone read
Early game seemed to be trying to find his footing a lot
I didn't write down who it was that says Hockey just does weird things as town that gets him MC'd but I can definitely see this as a weird town game rather than a scum game.
Gypyx (pg. 7)
Doesn't need to throw that out for a partner, isn't active enough to influence others on it idt +3
I think the red circle PFP's getting to me
Otherwise, scum-reads seem to be the town launchbait, which I'm not a huge fan of. Generally needs more development though before I can make a meaningful call on this slot.
DojimaThis is a null-town lean color btw since it's hard to distinctify.
iirc there was a coaching claim related to this slot from cows that I think I comment on in my notes on him. This player seems so inactive that they wouldn't read a scum chat to even follow coaching advise.
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Slight townread since, at least in their response to Ez, they seem to be considering similar worlds to me. (i.e. Hockey is launchbait, Auryxx is mafia.) Null because they seem very unsure of exactly that. Similarly in the "Needs more development" boat.
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